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                              The Army & Navy Chelmsford




    I recently met with Sean Hudson former promoter of the Army &
    Navy music venue in Chelmsford.
    What sort of pupil were you at Boswells




    I did not care very much for school, I was absent towards the end of
    the fourth year onwards. I never really cared much for rules etc, my
    uniform consisted of black trousers, Doc Martins, silk black shirt and
    an American baseball jacket! (this was the 80s). I sat one exam. I
    have an older sister who influenced me very much musically as she
    was very into her music and I have two younger brothers. All my family
    still reside in Chelmsford.




                                                                             What sort of bands were you
                                                                             seeing before you music
                                                                             promoting days.
                                                                             Punk really, never saw any other
                                                                             bands as I was at that point pretty
                                                                             blind to other genres. I have
                                                                             always liked rock & heavy metal
                                                                             though.




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    What sort of albums did you have in your collection in your
    youth.
    Surprise, surprise, punk & skinhead music. I was a massive Oi! fan
    (still am ) and the first record I bought (in 1981) was The Sex Pistols
    'God save The Queen' and my second was The Exploited 'Dead
    Cities'. Although I have to admit to being a big Adam Ant fan and a
    closet Gary Numan fan!




                                                                              What did you do when you left
                                                                              school and how and when did
                                                                              you become a music promoter
                                                                              When I left school I joined a
                                                                              travelling fair but soon came back
                                                                              and became a tyre fitter. I did this
                                                                              for a year before going off the rails
                                                                              for two years, in and out of various
                                                                              jobs and many a run in with the
                                                                              police. In 1990 I started work at the
                                                                              Little Chef in Widford and stayed
                                                                              there for two years. It was at this
                                                                              time ( or slightly before ) I had
                                                                              been doing mail order records
                                                                              which led me into doing a punk/Oi!
                                                                              fanzine called Welcome To The
                                                                              Real World which ran for 5 issues
                                                                              and was distributed all over the
                                                                              world. I also did a little bit of writing
                                                                              for Metal Hammer magazine who
                                                                              were doing a punk section. Whilst
                                                                              doing this I got to interview all my
                                                                              heroes such as Cock Sparrer, Glen
                                                                              Matlock, Sham 69, The Last
                                                                              Resort, Splodge and also met
                                                                              some great people. I remember
                                                                              interviewing Ronnie Thomas from
                                                                              the Heavy Metal Kids and we went
                                                                              for a meal on Carnaby Street and I
                                                                              felt like I had met royalty. That was
                                                                              one of my best interviews but I
                                                                              could do so much better now.
                                                                              I started going to the Stick of Rock
                                                                              in Bethnal Green that was run by
                                                                              Steve Bruce, the drummer with
                                                                              Cock Sparrer sometimes I stayed
                                                                              there for the weekend seeing all
                                                                              types of bands. I then thought to
                                                                              myself why was I here in London
                                                                              when I could promote a venue in
                                                                              Chelmsford and bring the bands to
                                                                              the towns so I set to work on
                                                                              achieving this goal. This was 1992
                                                                              and I originally booked
                                                                              Chelmsford’s YMCA for a Heavy
                                                                              Metal Kids, show with their new
                                                                              singer 'Dave Demarco, gig for
                                                                              December 11th 1992 but switched
                                                                              to the A&N and the rest is history!
                                                                              In fact the first band I booked was

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                                                                           a Psychobilly band called the
                                                                           Klingonz about 140 turned up for
                                                                           this gig. Previous to this the so
                                                                           called Kings of Psychobilly The
                                                                           Meteors had played the venue.

    Army & Navy Flyer c/o Steve Clark
    Can you tells more about the early days and the Army and Navy
    became a major venue on the music scene.
    The Landlord of the Army & Navy was Martin, at first myself and John
    Dunn were allocated two nights a week to promote new acts to the
    venue. I remember booking Glen Matlock a former member of the Sex
    Pistols the fee was £250.00 and only 120 turned up and we lost
    money on that gig. Admission was £2.50. He told me the Sex Pistols
    would never reform! We also booked many other Punk bands
    including UK Subs, The Exploited, 999, Peter & The Test Tube Babies,
    The Anti Nowhere League, Splodge etc etc
    John Dunn was the former promoter at the Y Club but now we were
    working together and our 2 nights a week at the A&N had now been
    increased to include an Indie night on a Thursday. And soon we were
    booking alternate Fridays and Saturdays and later Mondays &
    Tuesdays.


                                                                           I understand you booked in
                                                                           Oasis
                                                                           No, I didnt, John Dunn did. I turned
                                                                           them down to headline an alldayer.
                                                                           Oasis were booked in 1994 and we
                                                                           sold 350 tickets in advance of the
                                                                           show, the official capacity of the
                                                                           venue was 260. Oasis had just
                                                                           released their first singl and by the
                                                                           time they played it had just gone
                                                                           into the UK charts. The support
                                                                           were called 'Elemental Child' there
                                                                           was another band that night but I
                                                                           cannot remember their name, I
                                                                           remember the Gallagher brothers
                                                                           having a massive water fight in the
                                                                           corridor and back room before the
                                                                           gig. So to put pay to all bullshit
                                                                           rumours, 350 turned up, it was sold
                                                                           out in advance and they never
                                                                           played more than once. According
                                                                           to Chelmsford folk lore, there was
                                                                           20,000 people there on the night!
                                                                           Around this time we had booked in
                                                                           Canadian band Moist and
                                                                           Scandinavian rockers Clawfinger,
                                                                           in 1995 John had left the A&N and
                                                                           I was booking all the bands myself.
                                                                           Tuesdays, Thursdays, Fridays and
                                                                           Saturdays. Wednesday and
                                                                           Sunday night were designated as
                                                                           gay evenings that proved to be
                                                                           very successful. ( The gay nights
                                                                           actually kept the venue afloat) We
                                                                           also booked tribute bands and I
                                                                           remember putting the Australian
                                                                           Pink Floyd on, one of their first gigs
                                                                           in the UK. I also booked them in
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                                                                                Southend and it was a joint
                                                                                promotion. The promoters pulled
                                                                                out a week before because they
                                                                                had no confidence and on the day
                                                                                the pier caught fire but the gig sold
                                                                                out and I made a fortune. They are
                                                                                stadium fillers now all over the
                                                                                world!


    When did the Brewery first try close the A&N down.
    The Brewery wanted to close the Pub in 95 and John went to the Y
    Club, but a campaign was launched to save the now famous venue. A
    petition of 6500 names signed and together with the help of the
    Chelmsford Yellow Advertiser newspaper who headlined the fight, the
    Venue was saved for now.
    What other big name bands did you book in from 1995
    Just to name a few Kula Shaker, Sterophonics, Headswim, Super
    Furry Animals, Idlewild, Elastica, Longpigs,Wishbone Ash, Feeder,
    Garp, Sleeper, The Mission, and Dogs D' Amour. Midge Ure, In fact
    the V festival had started in 1994 and a lot of the acts that played here
    went on to headline or be a major attractions in future festivals at
    Hylands Park.
    In 1999 Martin the landlord left the Army & Navy and I took over the
    whole venue, that by now was well established, this was a busy time. I
    had booked in such local bands as The Filaments, The Big, Ac Slater,
    Thaed, Tellercreep, ISM and created a scene with these bands. The
    last 18 months of the Navy was the busiest and the local scene was at
    its best since 1993 when we had great local bands like Garp, The
    Kites & Vybe Trybe. They were great times.




                                                                                What was your personal best
                                                                                moment
                                                                                My best moment was booking in
                                                                                my favourite band from Australia
                                                                                who played their first UK show
                                                                                here at the Army & Navy in 19
                                                                                years, the band were called Rose
                                                                                Tattoo , the lead singer was called
                                                                                'Angry Anderson' they had worked
                                                                                with AC/DC the sound was a
                                                                                heavy metal mix with blues and
                                                                                rock. There’s nothing like having
                                                                                your own personal favourite band
                                                                                play in your venue. There was lots
                                                                                of other moments but looking back,
                                                                                the A&N could never happen now,
                                                                                you would never get away with
                                                                                what we did, nor would a brewery
                                                                                let it happen. It never turned over
                                                                                fortunes for anyone.
                                                                                I wanted to book Sham 69 but
                                                                                Jimmy Pursey refused to play here
                                                                                as he thought that Chelmsford was
                                                                                a Fascist town and his band may
                                                                                get targeted.


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    Did you book bands right across the music spectrum.
    Yes we booked soul bands like Junior Jump who played a summer gig
    and a Christmas show every year, this band always attracted a full
    house, Ska bands included The Beat, Selecter, and Bad Manners,
    Reggae bands like Bush Fire and even Judge Dread. Psychobilly
    bands like the Meteors. Blues bands such as Nine Below Zero and Dr
    Feelgood. So as well as all the Rock, Indie, and Punk we did have a
    good mix of music. In 1992 we booked a four band real skinhead gig
    which included Argy Bargy, no venue at that time was touching such
    stuff. We tried comedy in the later years at the back of the venue and
    Tim Vine played there and we did accoustic nights in there as well with
    the likes of The Almightys Ricky Warwick and Jim Diamond (
    remember Boon theme tune ) who played a blinder with Snake
    Davies. We did AOR ( Tyketto, Magnum etc) Folk metal ( Skyclad),
    tribute bands, thrash, death metal etc etc.


                                                                              I remember reading in the local
                                                                              press about controversial
                                                                              bands, Rockbitch and Impotent
                                                                              Sea Snakes.
                                                                              Rockbitch was a female
                                                                              Punk/Metal/Goth type band that
                                                                              were known for performing with
                                                                              their kit off and incorporating
                                                                              sexual acts into the show. The first
                                                                              time we booked them only about
                                                                              50 people turned up, three of the
                                                                              girls went nude, they would throw
                                                                              out into the audience a condom
                                                                              and who ever caught it would be
                                                                              offered oral sex or more The next
                                                                              time we booked them word had got
                                                                              out about them and the local Edge
                                                                              Magazine ran with the headline
                                                                              “LOCK UP YOUR SONS, ROCK
                                                                              BITCH ARE IN TOWN” needless
                                                                              to say we had 500 turn up that
                                                                              night. We did book them for a third
                                                                              time and one of the female band
                                                                              members fell over on stage and
                                                                              twisted her ankle that night.
                                                                              I then booked in a band called The
                                                                              Impotent Sea Snakes they were
                                                                              from Atlanta. America’s answer to
                                                                              Rockbitch. They are also known for
                                                                              sexually explicit performances and
                                                                              lyrics, the male member’s dressed
                                                                              in drag and the female wore next
                                                                              to nothing. The gig went well and I
                                                                              re-booked them and this time I
                                                                              made a huge banner that hung by
                                                                              the Army & Navy roundabout for all
                                                                              to see. The banner with American
                                                                              stars and stripes said “MOVE
                                                                              OVER ROCKBITCH THE YANKS
                                                                              ARE IN TOWN”. Things were
                                                                              going well I had sold 350 advanced
                                                                              tickets but unfortunately the day
                                                                              before the gig the Police turned up
                                                                              with two council officials. I was told
                                                                              if the show went ahead my licence
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                                                                                  could be in serious jeopardy, so
                                                                                  after considering the situation the
                                                                                  concert was cancelled.


    Favourite memories
    Lots!! Loads of late night drinking sessions with various bands, most
    memorable being Buster Bloodvessel from Bad Manners who told
    some great stories. Drinking with various ska faces and the drummer
    from the Specials telling me they would never reform. The band
    competitions bringing in huge audiences and big money. The infamous
    promoters diary which was my chance to sound off about what I really
    thought. I once said a tribute to Ian Dury called The Blox sounded like
    Chas & Dave building a shed! It wasnt a popular comment. It got
    serious hits on the website and I wish I still had it. Even the late
    Melody Maker magazine commented on it! Making Back To The
    Planet sell out and then touting our own tickets outside!!
    Best shows
    The Dogs D'amour were veery special to me for personal reasons.
    Reef were great and Skyclad were very captivating. There was too
    many really, ten years on my memory is a bit hazy. I still have the
    diaries from 1992 - 2002, there isnt much missed out of them.
    Did any VIPs come to gigs here.
    Yes Fergal Sharkey, Gary Numan, members from The Prodigy and
    Blur could often be seen in the audience and Reg Holdsworth!.
    Your Worst Moment
    My worst moment was when the Army & Navy closed in Oct 2002 to
    make way for a new sports bar called Arena Army & Navy. Our last gig
    was on the 20th October 2002, we had over 800 people turn up. Top
    of the bill that night was 'The Big” The gig ended a bit sadly really with
    the entire place getting trashed. Bit sad really and I never got my head
    around it.
    What did you do after the A&N
    I brought Colchesters Twist and renamed it the Soundhouse. It was
    the worst move I ever made! I lost 90K and never got paid for the
    venue when I supposedly sold it. I nearly had a breakdown because I
    was going through court cases over trying to keep my licence.
    Chelmsford would have given their right arm for a venue like the Twist,
    Colchester never deserved it. I nearly did a year there and again
    booked some great acts like Snow Patrol etc but by January 2004 I
    had had the music knocked out of me. Whilst at the Twist, I was
    running fortnightly gigs at the Marconi club in Beehive Lane
    Chelmsford. These were stormers in terms of attendance, nearly 800
    at each gig just with local bands! I was also involved with Chelmsfords
    Cave but was only being used for the licence! It was such a shame no
    venue could be found in Chelmsford full time. Marconis eventually
    stopped the gigs because of idiots trashing the place. So from
    Colchester I went onto Ilfords 'famous' music venue The Cauliflower.
    This venue stood for everything I hated about live music venues. It
    was full of tribute bands and cover bands just like the Twist was when
    I took it over but there was no point changing it. The venue and its
    crowd were so set in their ways. I had death threats from regular
    bands that played because I wanted to upgrade things etc. I was only
    a manager and didnt have to pay the bands as the brewery paid them.
    I tried a bit of alternative but it never really worked. I got sacked!!This
    was because I had thieving bar staff and I was loved up and the last
    three months I was hardly there. I deserved it. Believe it or not I do
    have a few good memories of the Cauliflower and there was some
    genuine people there. I did nearly a year there. I then went onto run
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    'normal' pubs before retiring in 2007. I dont miss pubs or running a live
    music venue.
    What music do you listen to now and do you still go to live music
    gigs.
    I still like to listen to range of music from AC/DC. Elvis to Johnny
    Cash. Also this year I will be attending the Rebellion Punk Festival in
    Blackpool.




    Maurice Hyde




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